Aside from the the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway gig I did with Kevin at Progfest, this was the first thing I recorded with Kevin.

I met Kevin at a local ski resort. Very much by chance or by the grace of God. However you want to look at it. I met this other drummer at a jam. I can't remember his name. All I remember is that he lived in Pomona, CA. He got called for a gig up at Mountain High. That's the name of the resort. The gig was for no pay but was for free ski passes. He didn't want to do the gig so he gave the guys my number. The guys are Kevin Kaiser and Charlie Bolis. They own a company called Vertigo Recording Sevices. They put in all the wiring and maintain some of the biggest recording studios in Los Angeles. Well they did Kevin's Studio, Lawnmower and Garden Supply. They called me about the gig and I happened to not be working that weekend and I love to ski so I decided to go for it. Another thing that enticed me about the gig is that Charlie told me that he had invited all these famous musicians up to jam. One of those musicians was Kevin. I was a very big fan of Kevin's music at he time. He had a band called Toy Matinee that I really loved. That record is still amazing today. That was the first time I had heard of the drummer Brian Macleod too. Well the only big musician that showed up to the ski resort to ski and jam was Kevin. He was the only one that excited me to be honest. He came up there with Sheryl Crow. They were dating at the time and recording her first record "The Tuesday Night Music Club". Coming up to ski was a little break from the recording. To make a long story short Kevin and I talked about the music we liked and we had a lot in common. I tried to keep in touch with him after that but he didn't return my phone calls. Until he called me to be apart of the Progfest gig and that gig is how I got to play and record with Kevin from that point on.

Kevin's record Co. "PRA" was looking for ways to get his record Thud some legs. So they decided to make an EP to go along with it. Kevin had recorded a version of Led Zeppelin's Kashmir when he heard there was a Led Zep tribute record being made. His version was awesome but didn't make the tribute record. So he put it on this EP along with some different versions of songs from Thud. Those are the songs I recorded with him. Is any of this making sense? We ended up getting the opening slot opening for a singer songwriter named Jonatha Brooke. She was/is managed by the owner of Kevin's record label. That was the first time I did my one man band thing. Me and Kev ended up touring the country in a Winnebago promoting that record and EP. I ended up playing for Jonatha because of that tour. I got so many of my gigs because of playing and being involved with Kevin. He gave me my break so to speak. He became one of my great friends also.

This was when I started learning about recording and what it took to make great sounding records. I Started using my Gretsch drums a lot in the studio and realized how great of a drum kit I really had. Those are the drums I used on the track "Waiting". The other tracks are acoustic versions where I played a Djembe and other percussion instruments.